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		<title>Switching from phpGroupware to eGroupware ?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Berger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;re seriously considering switching from phpGroupware to eGroupware for some infrastructure needed for a picoforge-based platform that we need to deploy soon. phpGroupware is unfortunately kinda dead these days, whereas eGroupware seems to have managed to keep some momentum. Of &#8230; <a href="http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/weblog/2008/09/16/switching-from-phpgroupware-to-egroupware/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re seriously considering switching from <a href="http://www.phpgroupware.org/">phpGroupware</a> to <a href="http://www.egroupware.org/">eGroupware</a> for some infrastructure needed for a picoforge-based platform that we need to deploy soon.</p>
<p>phpGroupware is unfortunately kinda dead these days, whereas eGroupware seems to have managed to keep some momentum.</p>
<p>Of course we had preferred keeping with phpGroupware when the two projects initially switched apart, in particular because the GNU project-linked QA/copyright policies were a guarantee that our contributions may be better protected in such a collaboration environment (we tried and help the phpGroupware as much as we could, btw, and parts of this history is told when looking at : http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/weblog/tag/phpgroupware/).</p>
<p>But the copyright policy is not all about successful collaboration, and it happens that phpGroupware fails to deliver from quite a few months now. Btw, I&#8217;m not so close to the project to tell exactly what&#8217;s happening and why, but looking at the mailing-lists, at least, the situation looks very bad.</p>
<p>So I dare say it lound : the phpGroupware project is quietly dying (at least from my point of view).</p>
<p>But as  we need some improvements that were initially planned for its 0.9.18 release (filemanager, accounts, various stuff I&#8217;m not really qualified to list completely)&#8230; we need to consider what the options are&#8230;</p>
<p>And fortunately, it looks like eGroupware has not forked in a too much differing way, from a technical point of view, and that they have even improved some of the things we expected to be coming from phpGroupware 0.9.18.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s very much likely that we&#8217;re going to try and switch to eGroupware for some parts of the platform to be deployed in the next month.</p>
<p>This may not concern the whole of the <a href="http://www.picoforge.org/">PicoForge</a> infrastructure but only a particular project that builds on top of the current PicoForge infrastructure, with some variations.</p>
<p>As for the future of PicoForge as the libre software forge, it&#8217;s not really clear what&#8217;s gonna happen, but I think that we may be making a more radical switch some day, for instance by forgetting the old legacy PHP code, and so neither depending on phpGroupware nor eGroupware, but using some more modern tools/frameworks (and why not something like Tine 2.0 ? &#8230; no, but we may be inspired by some of its characteristics <img src='http://www-public.it-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p><em>Qui vivra verra.</em></p>
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